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, that is .5 percent of the deficit. we cannot get there, get the deficit down without significant cuts in spending. >>neil: the election has consequences and you could argue that a key premise of the president's re-election was i will raise taxes on the rich and he is likely entitled to that, he will likely see that but it is all the other things they are leveraging with democrats do not touch entitlements and putting everything on table it remind me of george bush sr. he agreed to reverse the pledge oh ride -- "read my lips, no new taxes." but the democrats never offered correspondenting spend cuts. we know what happened to him. what happens to those who agree do in the republican party? >>guest: the republican party has to stand for economic growth and it has to stand for the principle that keeping tax rates low and reforming the tax system is the way to grow the economy. i disagree slightly with rand paul. i am in favor of closing loopholes. i hate them. i call them termites in the tax system but we should use that money to credit a first-class world class tax system that stops expo
trillion deficit and $17 trillion in debt like putting a band-aid on a grenade wound. >> wasn't the choice very clear in the election, republicans said no tax increases and they got a president who said, well have them and they lost seats in the senate. >>guest: they did but they kept the house of representatives and the americans voted if a government with two parties that control different areas of the government. if there is a mandate it is that americans want both sides to get together to compromise, to work out a solution, and i don't think it was by any means endorsement of raising taxes for the sake of raising taxes. that is worst case scenario for republicans. there is another way, and it is closing loopholes and deductions. >> do all republicans know it? you speak to senator chambliss who says i am doing what is best for the country not living with the no tax hike pledge? >>guest: absolutely, senator chambliss, i cannot speak if him personally but most republicans would say there is a better way to fix the deficit and decrease our national debt and that is what negotiation is abou
clinton, the secretary of state, to get up there and by this time we have attention deficit disorder so i am worried this will fade away like other important issues that end up on the hills supposedly, under investigation. >>neil: but there are a number of folks who think if the administration were to push miss rice forward for secretary of state, it would be inviting acrimony but it would come at an enormous cost. do you grow? >>guest: i do, but what we are seeing is a weird school yard battle. the fact that senators john mccain and graham confronted the president and the president came out and publicly defended we ambassador rice, now you are getting in this weird shoving match where, perhaps, the president feels, as a matter of pride, he will put her forward. she is very smart person, very experienced individual, and the misstep on benghazi, on going out on the public and the sunday morning talk shows five days after the fact and claiming she narrative of the video and the spontaneous protests, she relied purely on the intelligence talking points defies belief so that part needs to be
down our deficits, to streamline our tax system, to do it in a balanced way. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >>reporter: the president said he would be willing to have a framework in the short-term for spending cuts neck year but republicans likes speaker boehner are saying if you split all this up and only do the tax side and wait on the spend cuts until next year republicans are skeptical the spending cuts will ever actually materialize. this is all very critical because earlier today, erskine bowles, a budget expert who has become an influential figure, said he thinks that there is a two out of three chance that we are going to fall off the fiscal cliff it is a high probability. >>neil: gephardt think it is a possibility to kick the can down for three, six months, and let all of the cuts, delay the cuts, and delaney dressing on the rates for at least that long. how likely is that? >>reporter: it is something that the republicans would like to see so maybe they can fight this out more. but the bottom line is, the president seems dug in from wh
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